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		<title>By: Gavin Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have time to reply to this properly but if you have access to it, I had an article published this year which might make things clearer:

&#039;Equine Battering Rams? A Reassessment of Cavalry Charges in the English Civil War&#039;, Journal of Military History, 75:3 (2011), pp. 719-731.

The post above is nearly 5 years old now. Since then I&#039;ve refined my arguments and found some new evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time to reply to this properly but if you have access to it, I had an article published this year which might make things clearer:</p>
<p>&#8216;Equine Battering Rams? A Reassessment of Cavalry Charges in the English Civil War&#8217;, Journal of Military History, 75:3 (2011), pp. 719-731.</p>
<p>The post above is nearly 5 years old now. Since then I&#8217;ve refined my arguments and found some new evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hergt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hergt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who rides horses I think much of what you wrote makes perfect sense.  I do however have some questions  regarding what actually took place.  There are numerous examples from the American Civil War where first hand accounts describe cavalry charges against cavalry, which resulted in tremendous impacts with both horses and men crushed in the attack (some of which were of course also the result of horses in the front falling).  During the Napoleonic Wars Napoleon refused to create elite Cuirassier units stating that they were already elite units and explaining that their unit cohesion striking en mass would render an elite unit counterproductive.  If not used for shock then what was the purpose of the heavy cavalry sword of the Cuirassier?  Units reshaped the hatchet blade end and sharpen the tip to a spear point for greater penetration.  The blade, which was straight unlike lighter cavalry units, was designed not for slashing but to be used as sort of a lance. 

Now that have read your articles I am unclear about the purpose of a cavalry charge against infantry.  If it was designed to stop before reaching its target whether at the canter or gallop then surely the infantry would have come to realize this and not have all feared it.  Moreover did the charge stop before a line of infantry as well as a square. I cannot understand how a charge would have worked against infantry with fixed bayonets, but I could see that a charge could reek havoc on the flanks and creating holes in the line. I recall reading how at the battle of Waterloo some Cuirassiers went as far as trying to back their horses in against a square! There are also numberous examples of cavalry running down routed infantry in the American Civil War most notably during the battle of the First Bull Run.  I would very much appreciate your response to the questions I have raised as I have much respect for your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who rides horses I think much of what you wrote makes perfect sense.  I do however have some questions  regarding what actually took place.  There are numerous examples from the American Civil War where first hand accounts describe cavalry charges against cavalry, which resulted in tremendous impacts with both horses and men crushed in the attack (some of which were of course also the result of horses in the front falling).  During the Napoleonic Wars Napoleon refused to create elite Cuirassier units stating that they were already elite units and explaining that their unit cohesion striking en mass would render an elite unit counterproductive.  If not used for shock then what was the purpose of the heavy cavalry sword of the Cuirassier?  Units reshaped the hatchet blade end and sharpen the tip to a spear point for greater penetration.  The blade, which was straight unlike lighter cavalry units, was designed not for slashing but to be used as sort of a lance. </p>
<p>Now that have read your articles I am unclear about the purpose of a cavalry charge against infantry.  If it was designed to stop before reaching its target whether at the canter or gallop then surely the infantry would have come to realize this and not have all feared it.  Moreover did the charge stop before a line of infantry as well as a square. I cannot understand how a charge would have worked against infantry with fixed bayonets, but I could see that a charge could reek havoc on the flanks and creating holes in the line. I recall reading how at the battle of Waterloo some Cuirassiers went as far as trying to back their horses in against a square! There are also numberous examples of cavalry running down routed infantry in the American Civil War most notably during the battle of the First Bull Run.  I would very much appreciate your response to the questions I have raised as I have much respect for your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Gavin shock exists if it&#039;s cavalry VS infantry (You ever been hit by a running horse?) (Don&#039;t get me wrong I think it&#039;s a bad idea to do that against pikes unless the cavalry in question are armorued lancers with missle weapons and barded horses) You&#039;re trying to apply horse VS horse to Horse VS Man on foot(Granted formed pikes don&#039;t have much to worry about) those are two differnet things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Gavin shock exists if it&#8217;s cavalry VS infantry (You ever been hit by a running horse?) (Don&#8217;t get me wrong I think it&#8217;s a bad idea to do that against pikes unless the cavalry in question are armorued lancers with missle weapons and barded horses) You&#8217;re trying to apply horse VS horse to Horse VS Man on foot(Granted formed pikes don&#8217;t have much to worry about) those are two differnet things</p>
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		<title>By: Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must be careful about taking instances like Dreux, Ceresole, and the like, because such battles--while remarkable--end up being the exceptions once we take account of the much larger number of battles where cavalry pointedly did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; succeed in throwing themselves at an unbroken enemy in the manner of battering rams; and it&#039;s worth noting that at Kluszyn, the first ten Polish charges failed with horrible casualties. They only made it through on the eleventh try when Polish infantry and artillery had come up to deliver a combined-arms assault along with the hussars.

But enough about cavalry-infantry interaction. Going back to the original subject of cavalry vs. cavalry combats, another thing worth noting is the looseness of the Polish hussars&#039; formation. Instead of packing themselves together into a wall of horseflesh and armored men, they seem to have preserved substantial intervals between the ranks and files. This implied that they sought to &quot;thread&quot; through opposing cavalry formations in a manner reminiscent of medieval men-at-arms, and indeed this was probably the way to extract the most advantage out of their lances since it would allow the rear ranks to break their lances upon the enemy as well without losing the momentum of their charge. Even 16th-century Gendarmes seemed to prefer threading as well since accounts of their clashes against each other generally mention them passing through to the other side rather than stopping to slog it out in a stationary fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must be careful about taking instances like Dreux, Ceresole, and the like, because such battles&#8211;while remarkable&#8211;end up being the exceptions once we take account of the much larger number of battles where cavalry pointedly did <i>not</i> succeed in throwing themselves at an unbroken enemy in the manner of battering rams; and it&#8217;s worth noting that at Kluszyn, the first ten Polish charges failed with horrible casualties. They only made it through on the eleventh try when Polish infantry and artillery had come up to deliver a combined-arms assault along with the hussars.</p>
<p>But enough about cavalry-infantry interaction. Going back to the original subject of cavalry vs. cavalry combats, another thing worth noting is the looseness of the Polish hussars&#8217; formation. Instead of packing themselves together into a wall of horseflesh and armored men, they seem to have preserved substantial intervals between the ranks and files. This implied that they sought to &#8220;thread&#8221; through opposing cavalry formations in a manner reminiscent of medieval men-at-arms, and indeed this was probably the way to extract the most advantage out of their lances since it would allow the rear ranks to break their lances upon the enemy as well without losing the momentum of their charge. Even 16th-century Gendarmes seemed to prefer threading as well since accounts of their clashes against each other generally mention them passing through to the other side rather than stopping to slog it out in a stationary fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The horses of the gunpowder and napoleonic era were a shadow of earlier campaignes d&#039;orddannace, granted cavalry VS cavalry with a charge isn&#039;t a good idea and I agree 17th century cavalry was not (with the exception of the husaria) usually intended for charges. And I agree that in the 17th century shock was almost none-existent, in earlier times however I think that a Lancer with a good barded warhorse against infantry would be devestating. As for pikes thats what barding is for. I apologize I thought you talking about cavalry in general I didn&#039;t realize that you were talking 17th century cavalry.

BTW I can tell you right now that in fight a stallion is your best bet.

As for the word ‘through’ it seems to be a pretty straight forward term and by ‘through’ I meant ‘through’ as in: In one side and out the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The horses of the gunpowder and napoleonic era were a shadow of earlier campaignes d&#8217;orddannace, granted cavalry VS cavalry with a charge isn&#8217;t a good idea and I agree 17th century cavalry was not (with the exception of the husaria) usually intended for charges. And I agree that in the 17th century shock was almost none-existent, in earlier times however I think that a Lancer with a good barded warhorse against infantry would be devestating. As for pikes thats what barding is for. I apologize I thought you talking about cavalry in general I didn&#8217;t realize that you were talking 17th century cavalry.</p>
<p>BTW I can tell you right now that in fight a stallion is your best bet.</p>
<p>As for the word ‘through’ it seems to be a pretty straight forward term and by ‘through’ I meant ‘through’ as in: In one side and out the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you’re not arguing that a horse can’t be trained to charge what it perceives to be a solid object?&quot;

Actually I was, but that&#039;s not very important now. The main point I want to make is that even if horses could be trained to run into solid objects, it would be counter-productive. If a horse hits anything at more than a slow canter it will be knocked over, injured or killed (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investigations.4-lom.com/2008/03/13/when-horses-collide/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for some video evidence). Getting your horses stabbed in the chest by pikes is not a successful outcome.

The arguments I&#039;m making against physical shock are specifically about 17th-century and later cavalry, armed with swords and pistols, and riding unarmoured horses. Things might well have been different with the heavy lancers of the 16th century and earlier, but in that case it would have been the point of the lance doing the colliding, not the body of the horse. These posts are specifically arguing against Frank Jones who described 17th century cavalry charges as &quot;equine battering rams&quot;.

The word &quot;through&quot; can mean lots of different things. It&#039;s hard to draw any conclusions from it. Has any more recent research been published on those battles? Oman&#039;s work is very old.

I&#039;m very suspicious of the idea that stallions made better warhorses. I need to do a lot more work on this before I can take a definite position on whether they were or weren&#039;t. But at this stage it would be naive not to suspect gender ideology at work. If the Spanish Riding School only uses stallions, that tradition could be full of ideological assumptions. Classical dressage doesn&#039;t prove or disprove anything related to shock. I don&#039;t think the Spanish Riding School tries to crash horses into each other. If they did the losses would be very expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you’re not arguing that a horse can’t be trained to charge what it perceives to be a solid object?&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I was, but that&#8217;s not very important now. The main point I want to make is that even if horses could be trained to run into solid objects, it would be counter-productive. If a horse hits anything at more than a slow canter it will be knocked over, injured or killed (see <a href="http://www.investigations.4-lom.com/2008/03/13/when-horses-collide/" rel="nofollow">here</a> for some video evidence). Getting your horses stabbed in the chest by pikes is not a successful outcome.</p>
<p>The arguments I&#8217;m making against physical shock are specifically about 17th-century and later cavalry, armed with swords and pistols, and riding unarmoured horses. Things might well have been different with the heavy lancers of the 16th century and earlier, but in that case it would have been the point of the lance doing the colliding, not the body of the horse. These posts are specifically arguing against Frank Jones who described 17th century cavalry charges as &#8220;equine battering rams&#8221;.</p>
<p>The word &#8220;through&#8221; can mean lots of different things. It&#8217;s hard to draw any conclusions from it. Has any more recent research been published on those battles? Oman&#8217;s work is very old.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very suspicious of the idea that stallions made better warhorses. I need to do a lot more work on this before I can take a definite position on whether they were or weren&#8217;t. But at this stage it would be naive not to suspect gender ideology at work. If the Spanish Riding School only uses stallions, that tradition could be full of ideological assumptions. Classical dressage doesn&#8217;t prove or disprove anything related to shock. I don&#8217;t think the Spanish Riding School tries to crash horses into each other. If they did the losses would be very expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re not arguing that a horse can&#039;t be trained to charge what it perceives to be a solid object?

Here are the names

There are 2 sources (That I know of) which state that horses chests hit piks:

1. Diariusz drogi Króla JMci Zygmunta III od szczęśliwego wyjazdu z Wilna pod Smoleńsk w roku 1609 a die 18 Augusta i fortunnego powodzenia przez lat dwie do wzięcia zamku Smoleńska w roku 1611.
2. Wiadomość o porażce Dymitrego

The above sources were about Klusyn

What’s your opinion on this?

At the Battle of Ceresole in 1544, the French gendarmes under the leadership of the Duc d’Enghien repeatedly charged the Imperialist pike square (made up of several thousand Landsknechts), and in fact going right THROUGH the pike square on occasion. This after the cheveaux léger on the Right, under des Thermes had smashed into the Imperialist pike square formed of Italian troops, forcing them to halt long enough for the French infantry (made up of Swiss and Gascons) to converge simultaneously on the center Imperialist square, slaughtering them to a man. The Italians chose to leave the field (with des Thermes a captive, he made it to the center of the Italian square before his horse was killed), where upon the victorious Swiss and Gascons went to the aid of the gendarmes fighting the remaining Germans, and while the gendarmes held the German in check, slaughtered them, too. (The Landsknechts tried to surrender to the gendarmes, but were generally “unsuccessful”.)

At the battle of Dreux in 1562, the Huguenot gendarmes repeatedly charged the Royalist Swiss regiments, also repeatedly going all the way THROUGH the square. The Swiss held together, and through their discipline allowed the Royalists to “win” the battle. But everyone acknowledged that if not for the Swiss, the Royalists would have been the one’s trounced.

Check out Sir Charles W.C. Oman’s “History of the Art of War in the 16th Century” for full descriptions of these battles.

I think that the primary reasons that later Horse were generally unsuccessful at “breaking” Infantry squares was not just a lack of training (that could have been a part of it). It was also that what passed for “Heavy Horse” in the 18th and early 19th Century (such as Cuirassiers) were but a pale shadow of the old compagnies d’ordonnance insofar as horse-flesh goes, and with little armour their horses had little hope of survival anyway. Secondly, they were using mere swords, rather than heavy lances. I don’t care WHAT the later Cavalry Enthusiasts like Nolan or Patton said, a sword is hardly the “shock” weapon, certainly against Infantry, that a Lance is. Thus Napoleon’s Poles made quite a splash with their lances. Thirdly, by the 18th Century and later, due to the needs of having LOTS of horses and all of them getting along with poorly trained Cavalrymen, and all at government expense, the ratio of Stallions to Geldings was extremely low. But if you want aggressiveness, boldness and pure courage, you need a Stallion, not a Gelding. Geldings are far, far better troop horses than Stallions, believe me. But they aren’t the same animals in a fight. Think “Spanish Riding School” activities for what a real war-horse has to know how to perform in battle, and you have some idea of the demands upon 15th and 16th Century war-horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re not arguing that a horse can&#8217;t be trained to charge what it perceives to be a solid object?</p>
<p>Here are the names</p>
<p>There are 2 sources (That I know of) which state that horses chests hit piks:</p>
<p>1. Diariusz drogi Króla JMci Zygmunta III od szczęśliwego wyjazdu z Wilna pod Smoleńsk w roku 1609 a die 18 Augusta i fortunnego powodzenia przez lat dwie do wzięcia zamku Smoleńska w roku 1611.<br />
2. Wiadomość o porażce Dymitrego</p>
<p>The above sources were about Klusyn</p>
<p>What’s your opinion on this?</p>
<p>At the Battle of Ceresole in 1544, the French gendarmes under the leadership of the Duc d’Enghien repeatedly charged the Imperialist pike square (made up of several thousand Landsknechts), and in fact going right THROUGH the pike square on occasion. This after the cheveaux léger on the Right, under des Thermes had smashed into the Imperialist pike square formed of Italian troops, forcing them to halt long enough for the French infantry (made up of Swiss and Gascons) to converge simultaneously on the center Imperialist square, slaughtering them to a man. The Italians chose to leave the field (with des Thermes a captive, he made it to the center of the Italian square before his horse was killed), where upon the victorious Swiss and Gascons went to the aid of the gendarmes fighting the remaining Germans, and while the gendarmes held the German in check, slaughtered them, too. (The Landsknechts tried to surrender to the gendarmes, but were generally “unsuccessful”.)</p>
<p>At the battle of Dreux in 1562, the Huguenot gendarmes repeatedly charged the Royalist Swiss regiments, also repeatedly going all the way THROUGH the square. The Swiss held together, and through their discipline allowed the Royalists to “win” the battle. But everyone acknowledged that if not for the Swiss, the Royalists would have been the one’s trounced.</p>
<p>Check out Sir Charles W.C. Oman’s “History of the Art of War in the 16th Century” for full descriptions of these battles.</p>
<p>I think that the primary reasons that later Horse were generally unsuccessful at “breaking” Infantry squares was not just a lack of training (that could have been a part of it). It was also that what passed for “Heavy Horse” in the 18th and early 19th Century (such as Cuirassiers) were but a pale shadow of the old compagnies d’ordonnance insofar as horse-flesh goes, and with little armour their horses had little hope of survival anyway. Secondly, they were using mere swords, rather than heavy lances. I don’t care WHAT the later Cavalry Enthusiasts like Nolan or Patton said, a sword is hardly the “shock” weapon, certainly against Infantry, that a Lance is. Thus Napoleon’s Poles made quite a splash with their lances. Thirdly, by the 18th Century and later, due to the needs of having LOTS of horses and all of them getting along with poorly trained Cavalrymen, and all at government expense, the ratio of Stallions to Geldings was extremely low. But if you want aggressiveness, boldness and pure courage, you need a Stallion, not a Gelding. Geldings are far, far better troop horses than Stallions, believe me. But they aren’t the same animals in a fight. Think “Spanish Riding School” activities for what a real war-horse has to know how to perform in battle, and you have some idea of the demands upon 15th and 16th Century war-horses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to tell without knowing where it&#039;s from or what it&#039;s about. I wasn&#039;t arguing that horses couldn&#039;t run into pikes - they might not even have been able to see them. I seem to remember an account of Edgehill which mentioned parliamentarian cavalry losing horses to pikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to tell without knowing where it&#8217;s from or what it&#8217;s about. I wasn&#8217;t arguing that horses couldn&#8217;t run into pikes &#8211; they might not even have been able to see them. I seem to remember an account of Edgehill which mentioned parliamentarian cavalry losing horses to pikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;sieła nasi w koniach przez mężne natarcie znosząc płoty [...] a na spisy piersiami wpadając szkody odnieśli&#039;
 
(translation: &#039;thanks to the brave attack, in which fences were broken and horses chests&#039; were runing into piks.)

Whats is your opinion on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;sieła nasi w koniach przez mężne natarcie znosząc płoty [...] a na spisy piersiami wpadając szkody odnieśli&#8217;</p>
<p>(translation: &#8216;thanks to the brave attack, in which fences were broken and horses chests&#8217; were runing into piks.)</p>
<p>Whats is your opinion on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For such an unusual and well-known unit, there are surprisingly few sources online, in print, or even in manuscript. Most of the administrative records of Waller&#039;s army at that time have been lost, so we don&#039;t know much about where they got their horses and armour, or what they cost.

Atkyns is probably the most detailed account of them in action. They do seem to have been good in close combat, and it could be that they eventually decided to run away because the rest of Waller&#039;s cavalry had gone and left them outnumbered by the royalists. Barry Denton&#039;s biography of Haselrig would be expected to includee most of what is known about the regiment, but I haven&#039;t read it myself.

I think the main reason why so few cuirassiers were used in the First Civil War is that they were only useful in big battles, whereas most cavalry operations consisted of scouting and raiding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For such an unusual and well-known unit, there are surprisingly few sources online, in print, or even in manuscript. Most of the administrative records of Waller&#8217;s army at that time have been lost, so we don&#8217;t know much about where they got their horses and armour, or what they cost.</p>
<p>Atkyns is probably the most detailed account of them in action. They do seem to have been good in close combat, and it could be that they eventually decided to run away because the rest of Waller&#8217;s cavalry had gone and left them outnumbered by the royalists. Barry Denton&#8217;s biography of Haselrig would be expected to includee most of what is known about the regiment, but I haven&#8217;t read it myself.</p>
<p>I think the main reason why so few cuirassiers were used in the First Civil War is that they were only useful in big battles, whereas most cavalry operations consisted of scouting and raiding.</p>
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